It was one of the worst kept secrets in recent fanboy movie speculation. No matter how hard director J.J. Abrams, actor Benedict Cumberbatch, and the rest of the cast and crew of Star Trek Into Darkness tried, us diehard fans weren’t sold on John Harrison being the movie’s true villain. The more they told us it wasn’t Khan, the more fervently we believed it was. So much so, I found, the movie’s big reveal fell flat and didn’t give the expected emotional punch. (more…)
Before the credits finished rolling at the midnight screening of 2009’s Star Trek there was already chatter about who’d be the villain in the sequel, and invariably, Khan’s name would come up. Since then, Star Trek Into Darkness has been plagued by the ‘Is he? Or isn’t he?’ question. When Benicio del Toro was rumored to be the villain the internet cried, “Yes, it’s Khan!” But once del Toro was out and the most English of Englishmen was in, it couldn’t possibly be Khan, could it?
With the very first international screenings of Into Darkness wrapping and those early reviews coming in, the true identity of Benedict Cumberbatch‘s villain is about to get out. Is he simply John Harrison, terrorist and scourge of the Federation, or something more?
What you’ll find below the cut isn’t exactly confirmation. We can’t make that claim until we’ve seen the movie ourselves, something we can’t do until May 15th when the film releases early in IMAX 3D, but an early review from Furious Fanboys reveals all. I don’t believe they’d lie, unless they’re in a competition to be crowned the trolliest of internet trolls, – which isn’t entirely out of the question, have you met the internet? – so I’m thinking their claim is legit.
Okay, tired of me filling time and space and just want to know? Hit the jump.
From the get go we’ve all been speculating Benedict Cumberbatch is playing Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness, so when his character was introduced as John Harrison of course we figured it was a ruse. And this latest rumor dug up by Shockya.com may just confirm that. It’s all speculation and spoilers below, so don’t continue if you don’t want to hear any more. And if you do continue below, take what you read with a grain of salt.
The rumors about the real identity of the villain in J.J.Abrams‘ Star Trek into Darkness continue to swirl around the Internet like a runaway transporter beam, coalescing then disappearing like smoke in the wind. When one of the major characters in the upcoming film makes a public appearance at an event, they know they’re going to get the Khan question: Is Benedict Cumberbatch‘s mysterious John Harrison character really Khan?
Alice Eve, who plays Carol Marcus (Kirk love interest?) seemed ready and quite definite in her answer while working the Red Carpet at the BAFTA (British Academy of Film and Television Arts) awards last night. I re-checked all I’ve learned from watching CSI, Tell Me Lies, Doctor Phil and couldn’t find any tell-tale indicators that she wasn’t completely honest in her answer.
“He’s not playing Khan,”
I’ve come to the personal conclusion that she is telling the truth, Cumberbatch is not playing Khan. He’s playing the role that Judson Scott played in the Star Trek: Wrath of Khan, Khan’s right hand man and number two, Joachim. Khan, perhaps played by Peter Weller, will make an appearance at the end of the movie setting up the story of the third movie, but then again maybe I’m wrong, it won’t be the first or last time.
J.J. Abrams‘ Star Trek into Darkness hits theater screens on May 15th starring Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, Benedict Cumberbatch, Zoe Saldana, Karl Urban, John Cho, Bruce Greenwood, Simon Pegg, Anton YelchinAlice Eve, and Peter Weller.
Earlier today we shared some of the new images from Star Trek Into Darkness found in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly. Little did we know that wasn’t where the story ended. Comic Book Movie has picked up on some interesting phrasing on EW’s back issue page that may just spoil the true identity of Benedict Cumberbatch‘s villain.
It’s been a busy week for Star Trek fans with revelations, or fake-outs depending on how you look it at. And because teaser trailers, random tweets and publicity photos aren’t enough, the director himself, J.J. Abrams, is wading into the debate, and that debate is about just who the heck Benedict Cumberbatch is playing in Star Trek Into Darkness. So who’s he playing? Khan? Gary Mitchell? “John Harrison”? Throw us a bone, J.J.!
Rather than answer anything that would give away anything fun from the movie… the character that Benedict plays… he brings such an incredible power. His voice alone is unbelievable. He brings a force to it that when I think you see the movie hopefully this character, all speculation aside, will be really compelling. Not because of any connection to anything past, but because of who he is and what he brings to it.
Not just his backstory, but his agenda, his plan, his secret… all of that is what I think makes him such a frightening and cool villain. But also, you know, a real villain that are not just two dimensional angry vengeful types don’t see themselves as the bad guy. They are the good guy, they’ve got complete rational and motivation. So I think true to form, the character Benedict plays has an absolute sense of right and wrong, and he’s certainly on the right side.
“His secret…” So there is a secret about Cumberbatch, like his real identity.
Ugh. Actually, I’m sick of this guessing game. Wake me up when May 17 gets here.
Is there Khan? Are their Klingons? What is the deal with J.J. Abrams’ untitled Star Trek sequel anyway? Well, screenwriters Damon Lindelof and Roberto Orci aimed to offer some insight (if you can call it that) in a recent round of press.
Let’s start with Lindelof, who spoke to Collider while out helping to promote this Friday’s release of Prometheus. First off, Lindelof talked about building a bigger, better Enterprise set for the sequel:
There’s certainly an instinct to just go bigger in the second movie and one of the things that we did was we connected all the sets, so you can just basically follow the actors off the bridge, into a turbo lift, down, walking through a plaza, into the med bay as opposed to [having to] cut every time you do that, because when we were shooting on the Paramount stages we just didn’t have the money to connect all the sets.
Speaking of money, Lindelof talked about the awesomeness of Benedict Cumberbatch and watching him bring to life the film’s villain, Maybe-Khan:
Benedict Cumberbatch, I can already say with a certain degree of confidence that he is gonna give an iconic film performance and one of the best sci-fi performances that I’ve ever seen. And not even having seen the movie yet, just sitting there in video village with the headphones on. So I’m really psyched.
And in addition, for the record, Lindelof called Cumberbatch’s fellow Trek newcomer Alice Eve, “awesome.”
Moving on to another interview, Lindelof also talked to TrekMovie.com, and was asked about the rather intense secrecy around the film, and it’s his assertion that real fans don’t want to know every last detail about the film before it’s released:
We want to leave some air of mystery and intrigue surrounding the movie. Because as much as people clamor for information, I really fundamentally believe they don’t want to know. It is modulating that desire between “I know that my Christmas presents are in my parents closet and if I open it up I can see what I will get.” But, on Christmas morning when you see those same gifts under the tree, you know what’s inside and there is a part of you that wishes you hadn’t peeked. So it is up to us to lock the closet tight.
Word. But seriously, when are we going to get a real look at the film, Lindelof?
I’m not going to confirm or deny that [the trailer will be at Comic-Con]. Our feeling is, that if we can get something together that is worthy of showing on that timetable, then we will most certainly show it. But, if it is sub-par or not ready or requires more post-production, then nobody at Comic Con is going to want to hear us say “hey this is very temporary, but we wanted to show you something.” We need to put our best foot forward. We just wrapped principal photography as you know and Comic Con is in mid July so it is an aggressive timetable. If we are going to go we are going to go big or not go at all.
Aggressive timetable’s aside, I think Captain America was in production for two and half days before it appeared at Comic Con 2010.
Also at TrekMovie.com, Star Trek 2 co-writer Roberto Orci dropped by the site to answer some fan questions. Interestingly, Orci revealed that he had prior to the interview had a glass of wine while on a flight, but apparently the alcohol didn’t loosen up his lips too much because he reveal too much that’s incendiary. Here’s some highlights from Orci’s chat:
(Maybe) confirmed that Klingons are in the sequel (then sort of backtracked)
Did confirm Klingons (if they appear) will have ridged foreheads (like in 2009 deleted scenes)
Title for sequel still being debated
Hopes that first teaser will be “very soon”
No word yet on what’s going on for San Diego Comic Con (but will know soon)
Sequel was “harder” to write than the first Trek due to lower expectations for the first one
Animated show still a possibility
“More than a few” hints have already been dropped into ongoing comics
Harry Mudd is NOT the villain in the Star Trek movie –
No comment if Nimoy will appear
Watched all of original Star Trek series and TOS movies to prep for sequel, took away ” a better sense of tone and where our heroes are supposed to be like once they mature out of 09″
I think it’s safe to say that we’ll see something from the film by the end of summer. Usually as we go into fall we start getting glimpses at next summer’s offerings and I’m Star Trek will be no exception. Obviously, we’ll keep you posted.
The great ping-pong game of is Benedict Cumberbatch playing Khan Noonien Singh in J.J. Abrams’ currently in production Star Trek 2 (or whatever it’s going to be called) continues. Well, it appears that the scales are tipping back again with the following statement from reboot Scotty Simon Pegg courtesy of The Telegraph, via Cinemablend:
It’s not Khan. That’s a myth. Everyone’s saying it is, but it’s not. I think people just want to have a scoop. It annoys me – it’s beyond the point to just ferret around for spoilers all the time to try to be the first to break them.
Pegg’s at least half right about that because so many people have reported that Cumberbatch is Khan or have denied it, you’d have to put a gun to my head for me to decide where I stand either way. Sure, this could be disinformation, but are the producers willing to let Pegg look like an uninformed ass just so that they can keep a secret everybody knows? I doubt it
I know it infuriates us all to no end how J.J. Abrams keeps $#!% such a big secret all the time, but maybe it’s time for us to chill out on this whole Khan or not Khan question till we get some kind of on the record confirmation.
Technically these still classify as rumors. In my opinion, rumors don’t become facts until they’ve been proven by either the movie itself or those involved in making the movie, and even then studios have been be prone to misdirection before. But Trek Movie, the ever reputable Star Trek movie website, has been able to confirm these spoilers through “multiple sources”, giving them a bit more credence than your usual rumor.
What are they? They’re BIG spoilers, I can tell you that! Hit the jump to learn three very interesting “facts” about Star Trek 2.
The rumors surrounding the next Star Trek movie continue to swirl, but luckily we’re starting to get a clear picture. Last night we brought you word on the 3D conversion, the lack of OST cast members making cameos and that Bruce “Captain Pike” Greenwood has been written in.
Today? I give you what might be the greatest piece of news yet, our long national nightmare is over. Benicio Del Toro is not playing Khan. Édgar Ramírez isn’t playing Khan. Same goes for Nestor Carbonell and any of the other bajillion Latino actors that have been tossed around as stepping into Ricardo Montalban‘s fine Italian leather shoes.
NO ONE IS PLAYING KHAAAAAAAAN!
Producer Bryan Burk and co-writer/producer Roberto Orci explain:
There are amazing villains throughout the Star Trek universe, as well as new villains as we did in the last film. There are a lot of directions we can go in the film and in this particular case we chose to do something that would be original and unique and different and again on paper I think we made the right choice.
See? It says NEW VILLAIN. ORIGINAL AND UNIQUE. Dear bearded man that lives beyond the Great Barrier that may or may not be the supreme being (Star Trek V reference. BOOM!) let this be the end of the Khan rumors.
Burk also commented on the freedom they have in the new film:
What is exciting about it is, unlike the last film where we were restarting and resetting up all the characters, we are going to jump right in and we don’t have to set up everyone again and we can go right into it. For those who haven’t seen it, go get it right now. We are kind of in a mad dash at the beginning of the film. In all of our conversations we reference our favorite films and in Empire Strikes Back it is spectacular how they were able to pick up immediately and carry on from the last one.
Now, can we find out if the green Orion chic that was Uhura roommate will be in the next movie? I feel as though she was vital to my nerd spank bank the plot of this new Star Trek.